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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2008, 01:17:33 PM »
Here's another review I found. Much more lenghty than the first. It's sounding promising after all, IMO.

 http://www.atv.com/manufacturers/honda/2008-honda-trx700xx-review-729.htmlhttp://
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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2008, 04:45:18 PM »
Great review.  Ok so it bogs down during technical very slow creeps.......  Well, I remember my 400ex doing the same type of things during those types of very slow technical craws.  If it becomes a problem I will just change the gearing.
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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2008, 04:45:18 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2008, 05:06:32 PM »
Well, like the reviewer stated, it could be due to just the engine being "tight" cuz it is new. I don't think that I'll be doing a lot of rock crawling anyway. Sounds like the thing likes to be ridden hard, which is good news to me! I hope that my dealer wasn't full of sh!t and mine will be here on Friday!

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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2008, 08:55:09 PM »
Mine still will not be in until the 28th  :(

I will still be getting my 700xx.  Hopefully sooner than later.  I was at our private 1-mile race track on Saturday that I will be spending some time at this year.  The bad part is I ended up riding my Ranger around the track dragging it with the drag while everyone else was riding there quads on it. :-\  I did have a blast though as my 5yr old son got to ride his Falcon 90 around the track for the first time.  He had a blast.  I followed him around on my Ranger and I did get to follow him on someone's 450r for awhile.  That was my first time riding a 450r.  Man that has allot more power than my old 400ex, that I use to have.    So it is good to here that it is good sailing through the air 8).

I sure am glad you found that review.

If you find more let us know (good and bad)

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« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2008, 07:42:02 AM »
Best review yet found here!

http://www.atvriders.com/atvreviews/honda2008-trx-700xx-irs-atv-test-ride-review.html

I've recovered from the initial info I've gotten. This quad is gonna be great!!

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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2008, 11:03:51 AM »
It was good to read this!  The bogging problem doesn't seem like a big issue.  I easily tuned this out on my CRF-250X, even though that is a carb versus EFI.

Joe Barnel in the videos is one lucky guy - gets a free trip from Honda to go check out the new ATV!

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« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2008, 09:53:27 PM »
Awesome video of the test ride.  Can't wait to get mine now.  Next week is coming.


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« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2008, 09:34:17 AM »
Uh oh. Looks like there may have been something to the bad news I heard after all. This is from a review by atvscene.com:

There’s no putting around on this machine. It wants to be ridden hard and aggressive. If you’re a new rider that wants to trail ride on something different, you need to ride this quad before you buy it. In stock form low speed maneuverability is horrible as the IRS quad will push instead of corner and with no bottom and mid range grunt you’ll need to constantly clutch and rev your way through the trails. Our point is to keep all this in mind if you’re a Sunday afternoon trail rider. In stock form we just don’t see this as a good choice for tight woods riding or perhaps GNCC racing out east. But if you’re a high performance desert racer on the west coast, with a little aftermarket help, there isn’t a better machine available.

Bad news for the type of riding I do.

Go here for the full review. It sounds awesome until you get to the last page, IF you are a woods rider, like me.

http://www.atvscene.com/machines/honda/700xx_081.html



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« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2008, 01:43:03 PM »
The Honda 450r has the same problem, went down a tooth on the front sprocket and did some minor mods (air filter, exhaust, rejet) and it worked perfectly fine at slow speeds.

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« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2008, 04:17:28 PM »
Kind of ridiculous to have to go thru that many mods just to get it to run right for you, especially after shelling out nearly $8 grand. It sounds to me as if Honda did not gear it correctly, although I can't imagine why. So you are looking at a minimum of 6-7 hundred dollars in aftermarket parts HOPING that you get it dialed in right. I thought that this thing would be geared specifically for trail riding. I'm really disappointed with this whole thing.

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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2008, 04:48:33 PM »
Kind of ridiculous to have to go thru that many mods just to get it to run right for you, especially after shelling out nearly $8 grand. It sounds to me as if Honda did not gear it correctly, although I can't imagine why. So you are looking at a minimum of 6-7 hundred dollars in aftermarket parts HOPING that you get it dialed in right. I thought that this thing would be geared specifically for trail riding. I'm really disappointed with this whole thing.
Well I am sure just a sprocket change will be enough but just like with ALL quads, they come corked up from the factory. And it isn't 6-700:

airfilter - 30$
jets - 10$
Exhaust -  300$
Sprocket - 15$

I don't see how that is anywhere close to 6-700. Anyways, a simple sprocket change will do the trick, $15'ish

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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2008, 08:01:40 PM »
Well, sorry, but since the machine has EFI and is not carburated, you will need to buy a programmer when you get a pipe (no jets). You are looking at $500 at least for those 2 items alone. And if the gearing is that far off, what makes you think that a front sprocket change will solve it's issues? From the sounds of every review I have read, the machine has NO bottom end or midrange hit. Sorry, but that is a bad combo for trail riding. The Raptor doesn't have ANY of these issues, I just don't understand what Honda's intent was here. Believe me, I hope that it as simple as what you think, but I'm not so certain.  Back before these reviews started to come out, I had a little info about these concerns, but no one wanted to listen to it. The same guy that I got the info from told me that the Outlaw "kills" the XX. Even the Outlaw is geared a little high, but it builds power instantly with the throttle. I had EVERY intention of buying this quad, even put down a deposit, but now, I don't know. I'm gonna wait until they actually get out there and there is some feedback from owners.

Do you think that the delay in the release of the XX (if there really was one) could be to correct the EFI mapping at the least, or possibly change the front sproket? I can't remember the last time a machine was released to the public about the same time as the press got ahold of them. Most of the time the press has a test unit months before they hit the market. Maybe or hopefully Honda is doing some MINOR tweaking?
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« Reply #42 on: April 11, 2008, 07:13:38 AM »
Well I am totally with you XX-rated.  I am waiting to here if Honda has an answer to there problem of stating that this machine is built for the Utility trail rider that has decided to change and/or go back to a more aggressive Sport riding.  Then all of the reviews have been done in the dunes and all of the reviews have stated pretty much would suck in the tight trails but make a great Dune machine.  Sorry but which one is it Honda???  I am also very POed.   And Dunes????  Who wants a big bore IRS dune machine??  Some people are saying lets not get ahead of ourselves???  Question do those people have money down on one??  I am actually curious 700xx... Are you getting one? ??? Or do you have any connection with Honda? ???  If you do have a connection with Honda how can you answer the question above truthfully?  ???

How can Honda state one thing and the ATV decide something else?  ??? This is Honda is it not?   ???Sorry but this just does Not sound right. ???

Heres the deal..  If Honda wants to admit that this thing sucks in the low to medium end of things, do to it needing to meet emissions and then tell us that all it needs is a remapping to fix or whatever it is (in writting) then great.  This would be no different than the Outlaw needing a $50 JD jet kit before you even take it off the floor.  I can live with that.  But if you are talking a pipe or cam...Honda can go to Hell on that one and I guess I will stick with POPO :-\

We better start getting some "News Flashes" on all of these reviews such as.   "New just in from Honda..... after the first reviews Honda has taken our feedback and they have been making some changes to the production units to resolve these Low and Mid range issues with the 700xx.  They have come up with the fix and are sending us on another ride in the woods to show us the improvements that have been made thanks to our feedback.  ...............

I think you get the point.  There is NO excuse for Honda to state one thing and then the machine states the obvious opposite.  Sorry but Honda better have a press release soon...very soon.  They better also have a woods ride review!!!
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« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2008, 07:29:17 AM »
Damn Boy, you is fired UP!! I'm right there with you! I will admit that last night I talked myself off the ledge though. I keep telling myself not to completely overreact to what I have read thus far. Then again, I wouldn't have expected the gearing to be off that much on a machine that SEEMED to be specifically designed for trail riding. At least that is what I thought it was for! I'm gonna hold out hope still, cuz' I'm still not 100% sold on getting an Outlaw. I hope that you are right about Honda doing something about the low and midrange issues on the machine. If they release it the way it is, there will be a lot of pissed off people, not to mention it is sure to affect their sales, especially with as much activity is out there on this issue.

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« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2008, 06:49:35 AM »
LOL :D

My wife is starting to get bothered with me being on the internet all of the time searching for information on the 700xx and Outlaw.   ;D

As with you I am frustrated with the reviews.  I know the machine would be a great machine, but it sounds like I will need to put more into it.  I was hoping to only have to put nerf bars and a new front bumper on it and leave it at that for the first year.  Remapping and a sprocket would be OK is needed.  I just wish I knew for sure before I get mine.  If Remapping and a sprocket cannot fix the issue than I am not interested in it. ???

Keep me posted if you find any more reviews.  You have done a great job at finding them...Thanks
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